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Vehicle 51104


Class 119

Builder: GRC&W
Layout: Cross Country
Length: 64ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: BR Standard
Engines: AEC 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30422
Diagram: 541

Allocations

Oct-59 New to 84E (Tyseley)
01/01/63Boundary change84Etransferred from WR to LMR stock
Sep-63Depot code change2A
2w/e 18/03/67 Transferred to 6A (Chester)
06/05/73Depot code changeCH
w/e 22/10/77 Transferred to CF (Cardiff Canton)
w/e 03/05/80 Transferred to LA (Laira)
3w/e 15/11/80 Transferred to CF (Cardiff Canton)
16/05/82 Transferred to RG (Reading)
p/e 28/01/89 Sector Change to RG (Reading) NSBX - as L594
14/05/90 Sector Change to RG (Reading) NWXX - as L594
06/12/93 Sector Change to RG (Reading) NWRX - as L594
26/05/94 Transferred to TS (Tyseley) RDTH - as L594
Jun-95 Withdrawn from TS (Tyseley)

Modifications

p/e 11/02/78 - Leyland engines fitted

Disposal

Sold to Gwent Demolition, Margam then sold to preservation
Preserved - more details.

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:


51076 59435 51104 As delivered to Tyseley - October 1959
TYS512 51076 59435 51104 Listed at Tyseley - circa Oct-60
51071 59435 51104 Noted Aug-68 - at Shrewsbury1
CR554 51071 59435 51104 Noted circa Jun-69
51071 59435 51104 Noted 19/05/72 - at Shrewsbury2
51071 59435 51104 Noted 15/08/1973 - at Wolverhampton 3
51071 59435 51104 Noted 30/05/1974 - at Wolverhampton4
51071 59435 51104 Noted 17/08/1974 - at Chester4
CR554 51071 59435 51104 Noted 04/12/74 - on 2M67 17:10 Cardiff-Crewe
51071 59435 51104 Noted 26/06/77 - on 1002 Chester-Wolverhampton
CR554 51071 59435 51104 Noted circa 07/1977 - working on North Wales coast5
51071 59435 51104 Noted 06/07/1977 - 2D66, 09.41 Wolverhampton to Chester5
CR554 51071 59435 51104 Noted 07/09/77 - at Shrewsbury1
C594 51073 59435 51104 Noted 16/12/1977 - Cardiff Central6
C594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at CF - 31st December 1977
C594 51073 59435 51104 Noted 08/1978 - Cardiff Central6
C594 51073 59435 51104 Noted 10/10/78 - on 1528 Bristol TM-Cardiff
C594 51073 59435 51104 Noted 11/11/78 - on 2133 Bristol TM-Cardiff
C594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at CF - 03/03/80
594 51073 59435 51104 Transfer to LA - w/e 03/05/80
P594 51073 59435 51104 Noted circa 07/1980 - at Exeter St Davids5
594 51073 59435 51104 Transfer to CF - 3w/e 15/11/80
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - 15/12/1982
L594 51073 59435 51104 Noted circa 11/19845
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - 01/01/85
L594 51073 59435 51104 Noted circa 04/19865
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at Reading - Summer 1986
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - Aug-87
L594 51073 59435 51104 Noted 31/03/19885
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - 15/05/89
L594 51073 59435 51104 Noted circa 06/19895
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - 21/01/91
L594 51073 59435 51104 Noted circa 04/19925
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - 24/02/92 - NSE NWXX pool
L594 51355 59435 51104 Listed at RG - 12/08/92
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - November 1992 - Sector NWXX
L594 51073 59435 51104 Noted 22nd July 1993
L594 51073 59435 51104 Noted 3rd September 1993
L594 51073 59435 51104 Listed at RG - November 1993 - Sector NWXX
119021 51073 51104 Listed at TS - late Nov-94
119021 51073 51104 Listed at TS - 4w/e 22/07/95

Formation Sources
1: Gerald Brown
2: Leonard Rogers
3: Peter Wallwork
4: Jeremy Goodyear
5: Eddie Knorn
6: Shayne Lewis

Images:

Class 119 DMU at between Olton and Solihull

25th May 1964

Set number: 512

A well-loaded 4.40pm Wolverhampton Low Level - Didcot service is seen between Olton and Solihull on Bank Holiday Monday 25 May 1964. Formed of two GRC&W DMUs with a Derby suburban triple set between, 51104 leads the Cross Country unit with Tyseley set number 512 in the left cab window and its M prefix - changed from its original W - noticeably lighter than the vehicle number. The parcel car on the rear was noted as 55996. Michael Mensing.

Class 119 DMU at Landore depot

30th June 1979

Set number: C594

Class 119 DMU set C594 (presumably 51104 + 59435 + 51073) with another 119 behind and Class 120 set C600 (presumably 50702 + 50664) on Swansea Landore depot on 30 June 1979. Brian Daniels.

Class 119 DMU at Salfords

Unknown date

Set number: L594

Class 119 DMU set L594 (W51104 and presumably 59435 + 51073) at Salfords station - date unknown. Paul Redmond.

Class 119 DMU at Plymouth

Unknown date

Set number: C594

Class 119 DMU set C594 (W51104 and presumably 59435 + 51073) approaching Plymouth station from the west - date unknown. Paul Redmond.

Class 119 DMU at Laira depot

Unknown date

Set number: C594

Class 119 DMU set C594 (W51104 and presumably 59435 + 51073) outside Plymouth Laira depot, date unknown. Paul Redmond.

Class 119 DMU at Waltham St Lawrence

2nd January 1988

Set number: L594

On 2/1/88 L594 (presumably 51104 with 59435 behind) passes an HST set at Waltham St Lawrence. Ian McDonald.

Class 119 DMU at Royal Oak

9th June 1990

Set number: L594

Class 119 DMU set L594 is formed of 51104 + 59435 with Class 121 55028 standing in for the regular DMBC when seen at Royal Oak on 9 June 1990. Sparegang.

Class 119 DMU at Gatwick Airport

9th September 1993

Set number: L594

51104 + 59435 + 51073 (Class 119 set L594) head out of Gatwick Airport on 9/9/93 with the 14:26 to Reading. Sparegang.

Class 119 DMU at Chester

circa September 1994

Set number: 119431

Three-car DMU 119431 in the bay at Chester. Closest is 51104, 51073 is at the far end, in the middle is an unknown Class 117 DMBS. Reading Class 119 set L594 (51073 + 59435 + 51104) was transferred to Tyseley in May 1994, centre car 59435 is recorded as being transferred back to Reading in June 1994. On Tour With The Class 13 Army.

Class 119 DMU at Nottingham

October 1994

Set number: 119021

GRC&W set 119021 on Nottingham '4 middle' road in October 1994. Presumably 51104 + 51073, with a suburban DMS attached. They were based at Tyseley at the time. David Page.

Class 119 DMU at Gwen Demoltion

29th October 1995

51104 + 51073, 51409, 59485 (75423 distant right), Gwent Demolition, Margam 29-10-95. Kevin Dowd.

Class 119 DMU at Margam

25th March 1996

Set number: 119021

Three Class 119 vehicles - 51104, 51074 and 51073 - sit at Margam on 25 March 1996 waiting to move to their new lives in preservation. Nick Lander.


The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

DMU

Date: 5th June 1972

Set number: C604

Cross-Country DMUs at Shrewsbury on 5 June 1972. On the left is Cardiff allocated Swindon set C604 (W50701 nearest) on the 10.27 to Llanelli via the Central Wales line. Right is Chester allocated GRC&W set CR554 on the 09.43 to Wolverhampton, probably with 51104 visible. Tom Burnham.

DMU

Date: 17th April 1981

Set number: C616

GRC&W and Swindon Cross-Country DMUs stabled in Maliphant Sidings (Swansea) on 17 April 1981. Left to right are C594 (presumably 51104 + 59435 + 51073), C616 (presumably 51782 + 59681 + 51790), C622 and C559. Robert Thomas.

DMU

Date: unknown

Set number: L594

At Edenbridge is class 119 set L594, 51073 presumably with 59435 + 51104. Ian Buck.

DMU

Date: unknown

Set number: C594

Class 119 DMU set C594 (W51073 and presumably 59435 + 51104) in Plymouth station, date unknown. Paul Redmond.

DMU

Date: unknown

Set number: C594

Class 119 DMU set C594 (51073 + 59435 + 51104) at Maidenhead - date unknown. Glyn Weigh.

DMU

Date: April 1984

Set number: L594

Seen at Penshurst in April 1985 is class 119 set L594, 51073 presumably with 59435 + 51104. Ian Buck.

DMU

Date: 7th February 1986

Set number: L594

Class 119 set L594 at Betchworth on 7th February 1986, 51073 presumably with 59435 + 51104. Ian Buck.

DMU

Date: 13th August 1987

Set number: L594

Class 119 set No. L594 (Nos. 51073, 59435 and 51104) stands at Reigate working service to Tonbridge on 13 August 1987. Brian Creasey.

DMU

Date: 15th August 1988

Set number: L594

Reading allocated class 119 set L594 (51073 and presumably 59435 + 51104) waits to leave Ashford with the 04.10 staff train to Tonbridge on August 15, 1988. For several years one of the late evening trains off the Redhill to Tonbridge line used to run through to Ashford Chart Leacon ECS for fuel and cleaning. It would then make this unusual working in the morning the 04.10 Ashford to Tonbridge staff train which called at all station except Pluckley and Marden. It was unusual in being a WR DMU set on what was an electrified normally EMU only passenger route. Primarily for railway staff going to work it would connect at Tonbridge into the 04.58 to London Charing Cross passenger service. Some 'normal passengers' made use of it but it could be withdrawn at short notice for overnight engineering work and replaced with a mini-bus. At Tonbridge the DMU would then start off the first or second train of the day up the Redhill line which was not yet electrified. Adrian Nicholls.

DMU

Date: 4th August 1995

Set number: 119021

I was personally responsible for bringing 119021 (51073 & 51104) to Cornwall from Tyseley to help out on the St Ives branch. Unfortunately just too much work was needed to make it serviceable so it went back again. Penzance depot, 4th August 1995. Ian Buck.