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What do I do if.....
These notes are supplied by Stan Acaster (Dean Forest DMU Group)
and were compiled using
extracts from: 'Questions and Answers on Multiple Unit Diesels' by
S.E. Webb, The British
United Traction Ltd., Service Manual for 'A' Type and 'L' Type Units
by B.U.T. and the Service Manual for the
R14 4-speed gearbox by Self-Changing Gears Ltd.
Engine
will not Motor?
Check battery
isolation switch, control isolating switch, engine isolation switch.
If these are all right it could be a defective starter motor,
starter button, broken connections, flat battery, blown fuse, fire
bottle had been exploded and 2-pole switch reset, or burred starter
ring. If burred starter
ring, turn fluid coupling round to engage good teeth.
Engine
Motors but will not fire?
Low fuel or empty fuel tank; Fuel cock shut off; Air lock; Engine shut
down solenoid stuck up; Blockage in fuel delivery pipe; Fuel pump
defective; Lift pump defective; Air intake blocked.
Low water level on modified types.
Engine
Motors but ceases to fire when button is released?
Low lubricating oil. Low
water level.
Engines
will not start from Cab?
Direction not
selected. Test button
depressed.
In
what case would Engine and Final Drive be Isolated?
Low water, low fuel oil, low lubricating oil, air lock, shut-down
solenoid stuck up, fuel oil or water in engine sump, knocking in
engine, fuel pump coupling broken or loose, throttle motor stuck open,
fuel delivery pipe broken, fluid flywheel hot, engine been on fire,
propeller shaft broken, gearbox effective, final drive defective air
failure, electrical failure, or, IF IN DOUBT ISOLATE.
What
would cause Tachometer to have Maximum Revs. other than changing for a
Higher Gear?
1. Wheel Slip; 2. Gear not properly selected; 3.
Gear brake band defective; 4.
Gear E.P.V. defective; 5.
Rubber hose to gear defective; 6.
Drain plug missing from under gear piston chamber; 7.
If No. 4 gear, clutch plates may be broken or slipping.
How
would you deal with these defects?
1. Lose revs. and use next higher gear to reduce tractive effort
until slip is corrected, then change back down.
2. Lose revs. and select gear properly.
3. Miss that gear but if possible isolate that engine and final
drive until gear can be toggled.
4. According to circumstances miss that gear, or if practicable
isolate both engines and final drives.
5. & 6. Miss that
gear or, if possible, isolate that engine and final drive.
7. Isolate that engine and final drive as gear will be in
neutral when coasting.
How
would you tell a defective Brake Band or defective E.P.V.?
Switch tachometer over to other engine, if that is at maximum, E.P.V.
defective.
How
would you toggle Gear Brake Band?
Obtain plenty of air, stop engines, engage deadman's, engage defective
gear about twenty times, pausing 2 seconds each time.
Although bands are automatically adjusted it is advisable to
toggle gears 1, 2, and 3, once a turn, engaging them about six times.
What
would cause maximum revs. in all gears?
Teeth broken off dog; Spline collapsed; Final drive isolated;
Propeller shaft broken; Hardy Spicer couplings uncoupled; Loss of oil
from fluid flywheel; Electrical connections from deadman's to gear
selector not being made; Insufficient air to operate gears.
What
would cause Fluid Flywheel to heat?
Loss of oil through defective gland, or through bad driving, e..g.,
driving with revs. below 1,100 causing greater slip in flywheel.
At 1,800 revs. flywheel torque is at its maximum 2% slip, 1,100
revs. slip is 7.5%. Another
cause is standing in gear with the brake on.
What
would cause intermittent Black Smoke at Exhaust?
Piston wiper rings defective, improper operation of injectors,
improper valve timing, dirty air intake filter.
What
would cause continuous Black Smoke?
Fuel pump coupling bolts broken, unsuitable fuel oil, or engine
overloaded.
What
would cause higher reading in Engine Sump?
Water entering from cracked liner, or defective gasket.
Fuel oil entering past defective piston rings, or loose dribble
pipe unions on BUT/Leyland type engines.
What
would cause whitish evil smelling Exhaust Smoke?
Vaporized fuel, as when engine is started from cold, or engine out of
tune.
What
would cause a Loud Knock on Engine?
Worn big end or little end bearings, or main bearings, fused piston
head, water in cylinder.
What
would you do if you could not stop an Engine from the Cab or Local
Stop Button?
A.E.C. engine, push shut-down solenoid up by hand.
BUT/Leyland engine, lever shut-down solenoid up (from over top
of radiator) by using handle of isolating fork.
If unable to stop engine this way, close fuel cock; it will
take about 12 minutes to stop engine idling, 3 minutes if throttle is
opened.
How
do you tell Train Pipe from High Vacuum Pipe?
Train pipe is always situated on R.H. side when looking at front of
car and R.H. side when looking at rear of car.
How
do you destroy High Vacuum for Uncoupling, etc.
Destroy train pipe vacuum, release deadman's and place brake handle in
the 'OFF' position.
Suppose
when starting engines you had only one bank of lights?
Go back defective side and examine Jumpers.
How
many Jumpers can be worked with?
There must always be two outside jumpers (white), but there need be
only one inside jumper (black). Outside
jumpers are control, gears, forward or reverse, throttles.
Inside jumpers are lights and deadman's.
What
is a simple test for seeing if Battery is low?
Switch on cab lights, then press start button and notice the amount of
dimness in lights.
Engine
Light goes out whilst running?
On single power car unit only, switch tacho over to check engine has
stopped. Press starter button to see if it will restart, try 3 times
with a 10 second pause between, check bulb.
When it is next convenient try to start locally, if unable,
isolate engine and final drive. Probable
causes as for, "Engine will motor but not fire, etc.".
Why
10 seconds pause before pressing Starter Button?
To allow engine to stop ,motoring so that starter motor pinion and
starter ring will not be damaged.
Engine
light goes out when throttle is closed but illuminates when re-opened,
i.e., engine running?
Defective lubricating oil pressure switch for lights, situated on top
of the engine.
Engine
light goes out just before coming to a stand, and again when gear 1 is
selected?
In this case engine has stopped.
Can be caused by engine idling revs. being too low, causing
lower revs. in gear 4 just before coming to a stand, and not allowing
lube. oil pump to maintain pressure on shut-down pressure switch
situated on top of engine, or could be defective shut-down pressure
switch. To overcome this,
and save repeated restarting, when running into station at about 8
miles per hour go into neutral, this will take load off engine and
maintain idling revs. sufficient to maintain pressure
Before starting away engage throttle 1, this will increase
revs. from idling by 200 r.p.m. but still allow pump to maintain
pressure.
Another
cause of engine stopping when throttle is closed is hot oil, causing
loss of viscosity, which is brought about by broken fan belts or drive
or blocked radiator grilles not allowing air to be drawn through.
What
does Air and Axle Lights mean?
That both final drive dogs are in mesh, and there is sufficient air
pressure, 75 p.s.i., to keep them there and operate pressure switch.
How
do you know Dogs have reversed?
Always notice axle lights go out and then illuminate.
If lights fail to go out that car has not reversed, possibly
E.P.V. sticking open in former direction.
What
would be the consequences of this if it was not noticed?
If set consisted of 2 power cars, set would not move, if more than 2,
set would move with throttle open; road wheels would be turning
propeller shafts in the opposite direction and drive through free
wheels to driven members of flywheels which would eventually overcome
the driving members of flywheels, stop engines, and drive them in
reverse, causing them to seize.
Suppose
Engine had stopped and it was necessary to reverse to clear line.
How is Axle Light got in?
Owing to the fact that engine has stopped, propeller shaft will not
rotate to put dog into mesh, so, therefore, axle light will not
illuminate. To get light
in, move car about 6 inches. Road wheels will now turn bevel gear and allow dog to go into
mesh, and make electrical contact to illuminate light.
Suppose
when changing ends you could not get an Air and Axle Light in with
Engine running?
Notice if
sufficient air, reverse a couple of times, if still no light, proceed
to other power car with C.I.S. and reverser, switch in and put
reverser in Reverse, light should illuminate, remove C.I.S. then
remove reverser. Proceed back to leading cab knowing that Dogs are in Forward
gear so alright to proceed. Possible
cause defective bulb or loose connections.
It is a good practice, before changing ends, to select
direction before vacating cab.
Suppose
when standing idling, Air and Axle Lights go out?
Probably defective unloader valves, i.e., not resetting at 80 p.s.i..
This is noticed because compressors are not working so fast
with engine idling.
Blank
off defective unloader, if unable to do so use some more air by
reversing, this will allow spring to re-set unloader; this is better
than revving engines.
Suppose,
whilst running, all Air and Axle Lights go out?
Reduce speed to 25 m.p.h. (this failure is generally caused by an air
leak), proceed, watching air pressure gauge to see if it falls, (if it
drops below 60 p.s.i. gears will not operate), if it holds, clear
section, if it falls, stop and close cocks between coaches.
Good cars' air pressure will now rise and their axle lights
illuminate, defective car's axle light will still be out.
When in protection of signals, apply hand brakes, stop engines,
remove reverser, lock doors, proceed back to defective car, start
engines locally and find leak. If
unable to remedy,isolate both engines and final drives, sufficient air
should be left in the primary chamber, (held by diverter valve), to do
this, if not, isolate manually. If
unable to isolate, proceed at 25 m.p.h. and back in the wrong
direction at 5 m.p.h. to clear line,
This
defect, on a single power car, could be caused by defective unloader
valve.
Suppose
you had an Air Failure on Leading Car?
Shut air cocks between coaches and proceed out of the section at
reduced speed. Have Guard
in next power car to blow the horn; drive from leading power car.
If unable to remedy defect in protection of signals, isolate
both engines and final drives; change cars as soon as possible.
Suppose
you had a Complete Air Failure through whole of Train?
After stopping engines and locking up, etc., get assistance with a
W.L.O. When assistance
arrives couple up, also vacuum pipes; isolate all Deadman's and
A.W.S.'s; if unable to isolate final drives, or if it is more
practicable to leave them in for quickly clearing the line, instruct
assisting driver not to exceed 25 m.p.h.; back inside 5 m.p.h. If better for quicker clearing of line, and it is possible to
isolate final drives, isolate them and treat cars as coaches.
Running
along the road Vacuum suddenly Destroys?
Immediately close throttle, lap brake, gears in neutral.
When at a stand call Guard on buzzer.
While he is coming apply handbrake and stop engines, then ask
him if he has applied setter; if not, has P.C.V. been pulled.
While he is finding out, go back and examine A.W.S. flags and
isolate Deadman's. If
cord has been pulled, proceed back and protect according to rule.
When Guard calls you back on the horn, leave the three
detonators down and pick up other two, inform signalman in advance,
and obtain three more detonators from him to
replenish canister.
If cord has not been pulled and vacuum can be recreated, it
must be a Deadman's defective, so book all isolated Deadman's to be
examined. If vacuum could
not be recreated after previous examination, it must be a vacuum leak
proper, so part train pipe behind first car and place on stopper,
test, if vacuum correct, and there will be sufficient brake power,
pull brake release cords on rear cars and proceed at not more than 15
m.p.h. to clear section; Guard to give assistance with handbrake if
necessary. When testing,
engines must be running.
Suppose
you had a Vacuum Failure on Leading Car?
Disconnect vacuum pipes between cars and replace on stoppers, isolate
both engines, pull brake release cords, propel from next power car.
Guard in front to transmit signals, etc., speed not to exceed
15 m.p.h. to clear line, and put off at next convenient place. If necessary, engines can be left running if a heavy gradient
is to be encountered.
Suppose
you had a complete Vacuum Failure through whole of Train?
After locking up, etc., get assistance with W.L.O., couple up shackle
only, pull all brake release cords, Driver not to exceed 15 m.p.h. to
clear line,you and Guard to stand by handbrakes in case assistance
required in stopping.
Running
along the road lose an Air and Axle Light, also a Brake Application?
Electrical failure, on car indicated, causing Deadman's to operate.
Close throttle, lap brake, remove reverser, apply handbrake.
Go back to car indicated and isolate Deadman's valve, back to
leading car and regain control, proceed at 25 m.p.h. to clear section.
In protection of signals, isolate both engines and final drives
in manner prescribed for electrical failure.
It is possible that an electrical failure would not be noticed
until speed had fallen to below 17 m.p.h., i.e. when generator stops
charging.
Running
along the road lose Power and control, all Panel Lights out.
Deadman's operates?
Electrical failure in leading car.
Close throttle, brake into lap, remove C.I.S. reverser, apply
handbrake, isolate Deadman's. Take
C.I.S. to next power car, insert and switch on, back to leading car,
insert reverser. All lights would return except leading air and axle light.
Proceed at 25 m.p.h. to clear section in protection of signals,
isolate both engines and final drives as for electrical failure.
Suppose
you could not Regain Control at Front?
After inserting C.I.S. in any other cabs available I should assume
that leading desk had failed, so I should go back to the most suitable
cab for observing signals and see if I could get control there.
If not, try other cabs. When
control was regained in one of the cabs, put Guard in front and propel
at 15 m.p.h. to clear section. Put
car off at next convenient place.
It is a remote chance that you would not get control in one of
the cabs.
Electrical
Failures in Leading Cars
With certain electrical failures it is possible, after isolating
Deadman's, to still be able to control rear car without taking C.I.S.
back. In other cases it
is possible to regain full control after taking C.I.S. back, so it is
perhaps wiser to take C.I.S. back and possibly avoid isolating.
Suppose
you did have Complete Electrical Failure?
Take out C.I.S. and reverser, apply handbrakes, stop all engines with
shut down solenoids. Take
W.L.O. and fetch assistance, when it arrives, couple shackle and tain
pipes, isolate all Deadman's and A.W.S.
Instruct driver not to exceed 25 m.p.h. and back inside at 5
m.p.h. According to
circumstances prevailing to clear line quickly, act as above, but, if
more delay would be incurred by not isolating, all engines and final
drives can be isolated and cars treated as coaches.
Suppose
assistance was a DMU
of same type?
If vacuum system is alright both vacuum pipes can be coupled, control
jumpers can be coupled if defective engines and final drives are
isolated.
Action
when Firebell rings?
Notice which engine from panel (light goes out).
Stop train in a suitable place, stop all engines, apply
handbrake, remove reverser. Take
fire extinguisher to affected car, see if automatic fire bottle has
operated, if not, operate it by pressing flame switch and, if
necessary, use hand extinguisher. When fire is out isolate that engine and final drive, tear
tag off fire control panel and reverse 2-pole switch; this
extinguishes red light, breaks engine starting circuit, stops bell
from ringing and brings thermostat into circuit over fluid flywheel.
Should a second fire occur on this engine the fire bell will
ring again and hand extinguishers must be used as automatic
extinguisher is not available.
Suppose
when changing ends you had a continuous A.W.S. Siren?
This is generally caused by contacts in the shoe moving as car has
passed over ramps in the reverse direction.
Isolate A.W.S. with flag until the first ramp in the right
direction, this will reset contacts in shoe.
Suppose
you had a continuous siren which you could not isolate?
This is caused by the A.W.S. emergency valve sticking up.
The valve is situated under the desk on the R.H. side, and on
some cars the spindle can be seen protruding; if it is possible, push
it down. If unable to push down, remove pepper box and blank with a
coin, or wrap a plastic food bag round it; vacuum can now be created
but a leak will be noticed in lap
If siren cannot be sealed enough to create vacuum, treat as a
vacuum failure on leading car.
Suppose
you have a higher train pipe vacuum in one power car than the other?
On leaving the higher car to drive from the lower, I should pull
release cords on the brake cylinders, proceed to lower car and apply
handbrake, then pull release cords on cylinders, recreate vacuum and
proceed. The reason being
is that the feed valve in the cab driving from, controls the amount of
vacuum to be created in the train pipe, so, if brakes were not
released they would drag. Book
whichever feed valve is defective.
Suppose
Train Pipe Needle equalised with Reservoir?
Punctured diaphragm of
feed valve. Release
brakes with cords, recreate vacuum to 21" and lap; keep eye on
train pipe in case of leak.
Suppose
after relieving a set, vacuum leaks or recreates in lap position?
Could be a brake
handle left in one of the cabs, or a brake valve turned when handle
was removed, leaving valve towards 'on' or 'off'.
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