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Vehicle 51269

Class 105

Builder: Cravens
Layout: Low Density
Length: 57ft
Coupling Code: Blue Square
Coupling Type: Screw
Gangway Type: LMS
Engines: AEC 150hp / Leyland 150hp
Transmission: Mechanical
Lot Number: 30469
Diagram: 532

Allocations

01/08/58	New to	31A (Cambridge)
3w/e 04/07/59	Transferred to	34B (Hornsey)
Apr-60	Transferred to	34G (Finsbury Park)
3w/e 01/07/61	Transferred to	40A (Lincoln)
4w/e 03/03/62	Transferred to	34G (Finsbury Park)
May-73	Depot code change	FP
w/e 02/10/77	Transferred to	NR (Norwich)
Dec-83	Depot code change	NC
22/06/86	Transferred to	AY (Ayr)
28/09/86	Withdrawn from	AY (Ayr)
p/e 23/11/86	Reinstated	AY (Ayr)
Mar-87	Withdrawn

Notes

Sep-86 - 51269 withdrawal published then cancelled.
24th April 1987 - Seen at Falkland Yard
29th April 1987 - Seen at Falkland Yard

Disposal

Scrapped by Mayer Newman, Snailwell

Some sample formations the vehicle has been noted in:

	51269	56427		As delivered to 31A - 1st August 1958
	51269	56453		Noted 12th Nov 1960
	51269	56427		Transfer to 40A - 3w/e 01/07/61
	51269	56427		Transfer to 34G - 4w/e 03/03/62
	51269	56421		Noted 18/08/69 - at Cambridge¹
	51269	56421		Noted 04/09/69 - at Kings Cross¹
	51269	56132		Noted 04/08/73 - at Ipswich²
	51269	56132		Noted 08/06/74 - at Bury St Edmunds³
	51269	56422		Noted 08/08/1974 - at Kings Cross⁴
	51269	56425		Noted 20/07/75 - at Bury St Edmunds³
	51269	56422		Noted 11/10/75 - at Bury St Edmunds³
	51269	56457		Noted 28/02/76 - at Bury St Edmunds³
	51269	56457		Noted 03/04/76 - at Bury St Edmunds³
	51269	56431		Noted 25/11/76 - on Cambridge depot³
	51269	56431		Noted 09/12/76 - on Cambridge depot³
	51269			Noted 24/03/77 - on Cambridge depot, loose vehicle³
	51269	56131		Noted 01/10/77 - at Bury St Edmunds³
	51269	56131		Transfer to NR - w/e 02/10/77
51	51269	56134		Noted 04/03/78 - at Bury St Edmunds³
51	51269	56134		Noted 06/08/78 - at Norwich³
51	51269	56134		Listed at NR - Autumn 1978
	51269	56134		Noted 22/01/79 - at Norwich³
	51269	56134		Noted 07/04/1979 - BLS The Ferryman Railtour 51265-56189 + 51269-56134
	51269	56419		Noted 13/04/79 - on early afternoon Cambridge - Ipswich service⁵
	51269	56419		Noted 30/08/1979 - At Cambridge Station⁶
	51269	56413		Noted 01/12/82
51	51269	54447		Noted circa 01/1984⁷
51	51269	54136		Noted circa 04/1985⁷
49	51269	54463		Listed at Norwich - circa Nov-85
51	51269	54136		Listed at NC - Dec-85
51	51269	54136		Noted circa 02/1986⁷
51	51269	54136		Noted 22/03/1986⁷
51	51269	54136		Listed at Norwich - Summer 1986
101322	51250	59069	51269	Noted 3rd July 1986
322	51250	59069	51269	Listed at Ayr - August 1986
	51250	59069	51269	Noted 14th August 1986
	51250	59069	51269	Noted 6th September 1986
	51269	59793	53647	Noted 26th September 1986
	51269	59793	53647	Noted 8th October 1986
105552	51269	59793	53647	Formed circa Dec-86

Formation Sources
1: Leonard Rogers
2: Ipswich Transport Society
3: Gerald Brown
4: Peter Wallwork
5: Phil Shatford
6: Shayne Lewis
7: Eddie Knorn

Images:

March 1968

Cravens E51269 stabled at Cambridge in March 1968. This was one of the vehicles with the larger than normal radiators for services out of Kings Cross. Stuart Mackay Collection.

March 1968

This is the rear end of Cravens DMBS E51269, paired with DTCL E56139 on the left. Stabled at Cambridge in March 1968. Stuart Mackay Collection.

circa May 1986

Set number: 51

Cravens Class 105 DMU set 51 - presumably with 51269 closest - at Cambridge circa May 1986. The vehicle would move to Scotland in June that year. Brian Ward.

14th July 1986

Class 105 DMBS 51269 at the head of a Glasgow Central - Largs service at Paisley Gilmour Street on 14/7/86. It had been transferred from Norwich a few weeks before, the NC set number 51 has been partially peeled from the left cab window. The vehicle is in plain blue livery, the vehicles behind (59069 and 51250) are in blue/grey as evidenced by the open doors. Dennis Taylor.

6th December 1986

A Hybrid 105/107/120 set heads away from Kilmarnock with the 11:45 to Glasgow Central on December 6th, 1986. Formed of 51269 + 59793 + 53647, they were listed as set 105552. Gordon Thomson.

circa early 1987

Set number: 552

A tri-coloured unit, with a Cravens car at the buffers. Note the scrawled (or taped on?) unit number. Glasgow Central, circa late 1986 or early 1987. The vehicles are presumably 51269 (class 105) + 59793 (class 107) + 53647 (class 120). Ian Docwra.

6th December 1987

E51269 at Snailwell on 6th December 1987. When this was reallocated from Norwich to Ayr I didn't think I would see it again. It's trailer (later at Norwich) 54136 went to Vic Berrys. Nicholas Youngman.

The vehicle is mentioned in the following images:

Date: March 1968

The rear ends of Cravens vehicles E51269 and E56139 stabled at Cambridge in March 1968. Both vehicles were allocated to Finsbury Park, the trailer had been a Hull vehicle and once carried an NE prefix to the number, it can be seen that the N has been painted over. Stuart Mackay Collection.

Date: 13th June 1981

Set number: 34

Met-Camm and Cravens DMUs in Norwich station on 13 June 1981. Left to right are sets 94, 58 and 34. One of the Cravens sets might be 51269/56469, which formed the 16.45 to Peterborough. Lewis Bevan.

Date: 15th March 1986

Set number: 102

Lowestoft station on 15 March 1986. Class 101 set 102 - 53193 + 59084 + 53180 is on the left forming 16.30 to Ipswich, on the right is Class 105 set 51 - 54136 + 51269 - forming 16.26 to Norwich. Rob Paterson.

Date: 6th December 1986

A Class 120-107-105 combination departs Kilmarnock with the 11.45 to Glasgow Central on 06-12-1986. The best (or worst) example of a 'Frankenstein' dmu set - blue/grey 53647, orange / black 59793, plain blue 51269 - listed as set 105552. Gordon Thomson.

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