This page has been compiled from input by the Dean Forest DMU Group, Edwin Knorn, Simon Stevens, Ian Fleming and the Swindon Diesel Preservation Society.

Type codes : A - additional information E - error U - update

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Picture

Type

Comments

9

bottom

A

Clearly visible in this picture is the sanding gear on the driving (inner) axles. This was only fitted to the West Riding sets.

10

all

A

Note that by this time strengthening bars had been fitted to the inner windscreens as per the West Cumberland sets.

11

notes

E

79647 was converted in 1957.

11, 12, 13

bottom, middle, middle

A

Compare the whiskers. All are very different!

13

top

A/E?

Note that unusually the lion/wheel emblem has also been applied to the trailers. These sets would include a DMS rather than a second DMC, and 79150 would be in the set rather than 79509.

16

middle

A

Note that the vent has also been plated over, and that unusually there is a windscreen wiper on the second man's side.

19

bottom

E

A misleading description, it is only the first class area on DTCs that had 2+2 seating. This picture is of one of the later batches. All the 'lightweight' cars had the 2+3 seating in the centre saloons on the reverse side from the later cars.

21

middle

A

This is one of three pictures with a different lining arrangement.

21

bottom

A

Compare the whiskers with the picture above. Also note the centre lamp bracket, as on p22 middle.

22

middle

A/E

The two batches had the same 'density' of seating. The DMBSs for the LMR had 52 seats, and the ER ones 56. The difference was in the size of the guards van, allowing an extra row of seats.

23-5

A

Although the text describes the use of these units on the Edinburgh - Glasgow route, the selection of the photographs is very unbalanced. The majority of the pics are from the WR, with only one from the ScR where the units spent most or all of their working lives. This is also the only pic showing the normal two power car + two trailer + two power car formation, and there is no comment on it, or the lack of electrical connectors on the full cab ends, anywhere in the text.

23

notes

A/E

The E&G Swindons were not displaced by other DMUs, although other sets were known to operate the services over the years. They were not displaced until May 1971. 79088, 79168, 79470 and 79479 surviving for many years more, moving to Ayr to work with the later 126s. 79441 was sponsored by a distiller and became "Glenfiddich" at the Strathspey Railway after some main line jaunts as hauled stock, including a trip to London. The kitchen car at the NYMR, 79443 was not used as a camping coach (they were 59098/9 from the later batch) but as a static buffet. All three were at Goathland.

23

middle

A

Note that there is no handrails on the cab and no emblem applied.

23

bottom

E

The WR trailer allocation was 2 buffets and 4 TFKs.

24

bottom

A/E?

There has never been any proof that the air problem was ever rectified. For the train to be a failure, both engines on the car would have to be out of use. This would leave just six engines for a 6-car set, and for an Inter-City service this would be more of a problem than no horns!

30

top

A/E

79901 is leading. 79900 was built with seating for 61, a later alteration reduced it to 52 as 79901.

31

middle

A

The water pipes originally on the front end was the filler pipes and vent/overflow pipes (which indicated the roof coolant tank was full when filling). Problems with these roof mounted header tanks saw the standard cooling system adopted, and so the removal of the cab water pipes. When Iris was converted, the filler pipe put onto the front end was for the roof mounted water tank for toilet/washing facilities.

34

notes

A

These cars had one flat and one curved buffer, for use when coupling in tandem, the only railbuses which could be coupled and operated together.

35

bottom

E

Typo - Keighley

37

notes

E

This 4-wheeled vehicle does not have bogies.

39

top

A

Note this vehicle still retains the 'M' prefix

44

notes

E/U

The last passenger car, 53355, spent its last years operating from Newton Heath. 50341 is now scrapped. 51118 now at MRC along with 56097. 56317 has been at Sutton Hall, Rochford for a few years now.

47

top

A

Note the small sized numbers and the 'G' painted on the blue square.

50

notes

E

50290 - 2 and 51745 - 7 were never fitted with Rolls Royce engines (a common error!)

50

bottom

E

This DMCL is not E50170 as it is displaying a twin describer and operating in a 3-car set, E50170 had a 4 lamp front and would have been a 4-car set at this date. There are no whiskers on the cab front.

51

bottom

A/E

The centre car is actually still green, and has a yellow stripe denoting first class, which was extremely rare. The rear vehicle's roof is more likely a shade of light grey. This version of the 'corporate blue' is the second incarnation, with a fuller yellow panel.

52

middle

E

The headcode boxes on this car are wound to blank, not plated over.

52

bottom

E

56393 had 53 2nd class seats.

55

top

E

If this is a 4-car and a 3-car, it cannot be a DTCL leading, and exhaust pipes are visible at the rear of the first vehicle, which is a DMBS.

56

top

A

Note the differing heights of the grey panels.

56

middle right

A/E

E59527 was not downgraded upon refurbishment. It was downgraded when West Yorkshire changed all local services to second class only around January 1983. The bottom edge of the first class stripe is evident under the newly painted blue over the ex-first area. Also the brown first class moquette is visible through the window. Note how the top of the grey area dips slightly above the small window in the centre section. The 'environmental ventilator' is the heater intake, which was originally taken from an intake in an interior vestibule, and was resited during refurbishment to avoid recycling fume laden air.

59

top

E

The leading vehicle is clearly not a DMBS, although the second is. Also the bottom pic on page 58 shows that 51441 was a parcels car by that date. Leading is probably DTC 54384.

59

2nd

E

53176 was a DMSL at this time.

59

3rd

E

53155 was a DMBC at this time (curtains are evident in the front saloon).

60

3rd

E

The trailers are now DTSLs. The former first class on these Regional Railways sets were reseated with second/standard seats at the same time as the new livery was applied.

60

bottom

A/E

The trailer was now a DTSL, as above. The cars will have lost their roof vents when asbestos stripped at Derby Works. Most units had new interior side paneling fitted at the same time, a creamy beige colour. The paneling on the draught screens usually retained the original laminate. The single roof vent was of a revised type, as fitted to air conditioned Mark 2 vehicles.

61

top

E

M53338 is a DMC not DTC

61

3rd

A

53266 still retains the RETB antenna on the cab front (next to the destination blind), as fitted by early 1986 to allow use on the East Suffolk line.

64

top

E

The livery was actually green and cream, as LNER Tourist Stock.

64

2nd

A/E

The livery is in shades of blue, but not Caledonian Blue. This vehicle also still retains the East Suffolk antenna.

65

top

E

First class had 16 seats.

68

top

A

There is also a Class 108 behind the Class 128.

68

3rd

E

The second unit is a 2-car 101, with the livery application differing between the vehicles.

69

bottom

E

The livery was red & cream. P200 was its Laira set number.

70

notes

E

59132-87 TCLs are not listed. There were 302 Class 104 cars. Every original TSL (Class 160) had 69 seats, and all had the luggage racks. There is doubts over whether 104s carried DMU ('malachite') or Brunswick green when new. When declassified the seating in 59132-87 was 66.

71

top

E

The leading car is not a DTCL. 4-car sets were formed DMCL/TBSL/TSL/DMCL, and no DTCL ever had a radiator, and shouldn't have an emblem. Also 56178 was a Midland car.

72

bottom

A

The Blackpool stripe also denoted that the vehicle had improved suspension.

73

bottom

E

The vehicle next to the Class 25 is a DMBS, so cannot be 50528/53528 (a DMCL)

74

middle

A/E?

50429 would originally have had a roof lamp, not the two above the buffers.

75

bottom

A

In case it is interpreted wrong, DHMS did not stand for Downgraded Half-Motor Second, but Driving Half-Motor Second.

76

top

A/E

The roofs were not recovered, just the holes where the vents were plated over. This was done during asbestos removal.

77

top

E

53520 was a DMCL. Was the number mixed with the centre picture, making it 53540?

77

middle

E

53540 was a DMBS. Was the number mixed with the top picture, making it 53520?

79

notes

E

The 106s were allocated to the NER, so it wasn't them that started life on the M&GN.

80

top

E

These are Class 112 vehicles, not 105.

80

middle

A

Number 1 is not indicated in the picture. It is the black panel to the left of the drivers windscreen.

82

bottom

A/E

This is not 56142, but could be 56412. This car, with split describer and no roof mounted headlamp was from the 4th batch. All DTCs, including the five LMR cars 56145-9 had 51 2nd class seats. All DTCs higher than 56412 weighed 24 tons.

83

top

A

It was notable that 56425 was outshopped as late as 1978 still with the headcode box intact.

83

bottom

E?

It is very unlikely that the roof were silver and blue, but would be differing shades of grey.

85

3rd

A

This type of damage is often seen on DMUs, caused by an unsecured air hose on the rear cab hitting objects on the track and flying upwards on to the cab end. See the picture below for similar damage.

87

2nd

A/E

This was not a 'Pullman'-style corridor (these were only fitted to Class 123/4/6), but the usual DMU bellows connection. The overflow pipe is more commonly referred to as the filler pipe, although is does have the dual purpose. There is no mention in the section of the exhausts originally being routed through the interior of the vehicle to emerge through the roof, rather than the altered position shown here.

88

notes

A/E

They were low density, as mentioned in the first picture. Some 107s had rubber-mounted windows without external aluminium frames.

90

top

E

The current route to Paisley Canal is still the same, although the new station is a few hundred yards closer down the line towards Glasgow.

91

top

E

This lavatory arrangement was not unusual. All 57' DMU stock except DMBS vehicles had lavatories, so 3-car sets of Classes 101/4/5/8/10/1 would all have a similar arrangement.

91

middle

E

The caption implies that the 107s did not appear in the Strathclyde colours until after this date. They first received it around 1984/5.

93

right

A

External differences between the Class 107 and 108s was the levels of the side windows, and the arrangement of the van doors/windows. The Class differed from 107s in the bodyside profile. 107s are flat-sided in the window area whereas 108s are curved from solebar to cantrail level (like Mk I coaches).

94

top

E

The lighting/heating control box is actually the EP valves which control the gears/throttle/final drives.

95

bottom

E

The headcode has not been plated but wound to blank.

96

top

E

It wasn't Marylebone but Allerton 115's.

96

middle

E

The centre car is a Class 104 TCL not a Class 108.

96

bottom

A

While the period of application of this livery was 'short-lived', it appeared in 1974 (the prototype refurbished 101) and the last car to carry it was didn't lose it until Spring 1984.

97

top

E

This is a Class 114 set. There is only one first class compartment (on 114s and 2-car 108s).

97

middle

A/E

Although the window has opaque glass, this is not the toilet side of the vehicle, this area houses the luggage rack on ER 108 trailers. There were 11 Class 161s built for Class 108s, making the Class 161 total 37. The alloy cars were built in two batches, 59380-5 weighed 22 tons and 59386-90 23 tons. The steel cars 59782-807 weighed 28 tons.

98

middle

A

The bolts under the centre cab window used to hold the bracket for the high intensity headlight for use in North Wales.

98

bottom

A

The black windscreen surrounds were also a Buxton trademark at this time.

99

top

E

52021 was a Class 107, but the picture has a Class 108 leading, identifiable by the low side windows. It is M52051.

99

bottom

A

Damage caused by loose air hose as details for p85 3rd.